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Pugnacious loves it with sweaty blackmen.
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Nothing
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Lord Mexican wrote: | | Sex, money, wisedom. Those things are outside pug's sphere of interests. |
You're right! I don't care about wisedom!
Now, wisdom, on the other hand, is something I possess that you are incapable of conceiving.
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LiveAndLetLive
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: |
You're right! I don't care about wisedom!
Now, wisdom, on the other hand, is something I possess that you are incapable of conceiving. |
If you had a shred of wisdom, you wouldn't even be on this forum. Besides, wisdom comes from experience, not filling your mind with philisophical ideals and debating them between your split personalities. I doubt you have enough worthwhile experiences in life to fill a page.
BTW: Getting "laid" isn't just cool in American culture... you're a loser around the globe.
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| My Supreme Lord And God wrote: | | [attack] Yahweh wrote: |
You're right! I don't care about wisedom!
Now, wisdom, on the other hand, is something I possess that you are incapable of conceiving. |
If you had a shred of wisdom, you wouldn't even be on this forum. Besides, wisdom comes from experience, not filling your mind with philisophical ideals and debating them between your split personalities. I doubt you have enough worthwhile experiences in life to fill a page.
BTW: Getting "laid" isn't just cool in American culture... you're a loser around the globe. |
Let me ask you a serious question:
Do you have any wisdom then?
You stated, if I had any shred of wisdom, then I woulndn't be here. Well, then why are you here? Is it to degrade people such as myself? Is the man who repeatedly insults the "unwise" wise, himself?
Also, you are assuming too much. You do not know me outside this forum. I have had my fair share of experiences, and I don't go around assuming you nor anyone else hasn't either. As I said, you do not KNOW me, and you are truly unwise if you think you do.
Your opinion is moot because you are also unwise. |
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LiveAndLetLive
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: |
Let me ask you a serious question: |
Do you have any wisdom then?
"My Supreme Lord And God"
Infinite amounts.
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Alistaire
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Wisdom is not gained by sitting on your ass ... you have to makes mistakes to learn from them, that is true wisdom not your psychobable bullshit
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Alistaire wrote: | | Wisdom is not gained by sitting on your ass ... you have to makes mistakes to learn from them, that is true wisdom not your psychobable bullshit |
By your logic, soldiers are the wisest then, for they have experienced the darkest part of mankind (AKA "war" and "genocide", in some cases).
But SOME of them come back with an unbelievable amount of national pride. It's horrifying how patriotic they are, after killing hundreds of people. This applies to every nation. For example, I have seen many veterans and people come back from Iraq with so much pride for their country.
It could apply the other way around also (i.g., Iranians come back from Iran-Iraq war, anyone come back - use your imagination and you can formulate any example.)
My point is - using the term wise to refer to someone else or oneself is ridiculous. A real wise man, such as x or y, does not consider himself wise or on a higher plane of existence.
Thus, the term is moot, meaning a real wise person wouldn't use it.
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Sygma
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: | | Alistaire wrote: | | Wisdom is not gained by sitting on your ass ... you have to makes mistakes to learn from them, that is true wisdom not your psychobable bullshit |
By your logic, soldiers are the wisest then, for they have experienced the darkest part of mankind (AKA "war" and "genocide", in some cases).
But SOME of them come back with an unbelievable amount of national pride. It's horrifying how patriotic they are, after killing hundreds of people. This applies to every nation. For example, I have seen many veterans and people come back from Iraq with so much pride for their country.
It could apply the other way around also (i.g., Iranians come back from Iran-Iraq war, anyone come back - use your imagination and you can formulate any example.)
My point is - using the term wise to refer to someone else or oneself is ridiculous. A real wise man, such as J. Krishnamurti or Ingmar Bergman (innumerable amount of examples), does not consider himself wise or on a higher plane of existence.
Thus, the term is moot, meaning a real wise person wouldn't use it. |
Wisdom is learning from your mistakes. Those soldiers didn't learn from theirs. You must be willing to learn from your mistakes.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Sygma wrote: | | [attack] Yahweh wrote: | | Alistaire wrote: | | Wisdom is not gained by sitting on your ass ... you have to makes mistakes to learn from them, that is true wisdom not your psychobable bullshit |
By your logic, soldiers are the wisest then, for they have experienced the darkest part of mankind (AKA "war" and "genocide", in some cases).
But SOME of them come back with an unbelievable amount of national pride. It's horrifying how patriotic they are, after killing hundreds of people. This applies to every nation. For example, I have seen many veterans and people come back from Iraq with so much pride for their country.
It could apply the other way around also (i.g., Iranians come back from Iran-Iraq war, anyone come back - use your imagination and you can formulate any example.)
My point is - using the term wise to refer to someone else or oneself is ridiculous. A real wise man, such as J. Krishnamurti or Ingmar Bergman (innumerable amount of examples), does not consider himself wise or on a higher plane of existence.
Thus, the term is moot, meaning a real wise person wouldn't use it. |
Wisdom is learning from your mistakes. Those soldiers didn't learn from theirs. You must be willing to learn from your mistakes. |
But what constitutes a mistake? Aren't the lines obscured?
Is a Marxist making a mistake?
Was Che Guevara making a mistake?
Do you realize how ambiguous "making a mistake" is? |
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plustax
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lol
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LiveAndLetLive
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Your not allowed to post while tripping on acid anymore.
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Sygma
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: | | Sygma wrote: | | [attack] Yahweh wrote: | | Alistaire wrote: | | Wisdom is not gained by sitting on your ass ... you have to makes mistakes to learn from them, that is true wisdom not your psychobable bullshit |
By your logic, soldiers are the wisest then, for they have experienced the darkest part of mankind (AKA "war" and "genocide", in some cases).
But SOME of them come back with an unbelievable amount of national pride. It's horrifying how patriotic they are, after killing hundreds of people. This applies to every nation. For example, I have seen many veterans and people come back from Iraq with so much pride for their country.
It could apply the other way around also (i.g., Iranians come back from Iran-Iraq war, anyone come back - use your imagination and you can formulate any example.)
My point is - using the term wise to refer to someone else or oneself is ridiculous. A real wise man, such as J. Krishnamurti or Ingmar Bergman (innumerable amount of examples), does not consider himself wise or on a higher plane of existence.
Thus, the term is moot, meaning a real wise person wouldn't use it. |
Wisdom is learning from your mistakes. Those soldiers didn't learn from theirs. You must be willing to learn from your mistakes. |
But what constitutes a mistake? Aren't the lines obscured?
Is a Marxist making a mistake?
Was Che Guevara making a mistake?
Do you realize how ambiguous "making a mistake" is? |
That's the problem. It's only a mistake if you view it as a mistake. If a decision has consequences that hurts yourself or another human, and the benefits don't weigh out these consequences, I'd view it as a mistake. Sadly there are many people who have no problem seeing other people suffer.
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| My Supreme Lord And God wrote: | | Your not allowed to post while tripping on acid anymore. |
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LiveAndLetLive
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: |
By your logic, soldiers are the wisest then, for they have experienced the darkest part of mankind (AKA "war" and "genocide", in some cases). |
What a horribly failed argument and it doesn't even make one bit of sense. For a guy that claims to be enlightened you sure are philosophically challenged. First of all, his statement wasn't "logic" and secondly, wisdom isn't derived from just experiencing atrocious or tragic events, it comes from any situation and the more broad your experiences are you'll gain more insightful wisdom. I would argue that wisdom isn't from just making mistakes either, IMO, wisdom is gained from trials and tribulations you just happen to learn the most from mistakes.
| Quote: | | For example, I have seen many veterans and people come back from Iraq with so much pride for their country. |
Who cares. You treat that as a bad thing. Maybe that patriotism turns to a sincere desire to revitalize or help his/her community to make his country a better place. You're so anti-socialization and self centered that you fail to see the positives in anything.
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My point is - using the term wise to refer to someone else or oneself is ridiculous. A real wise man, such as J. Krishnamurti or Ingmar Bergman (innumerable amount of examples), does not consider himself wise or on a higher plane of existence.
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You really don't have a point at all. No one has suggested that wisdom is a show of pride. Anyone that I know, that I'd consider wise, is usually quite quiet and humble and only interjects their reason when they see a need.
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You say we need to accumulate enough experience and learn from them inorder to become wise, but this is obviously ludicrous. Maybe they learn completely different things from the wise? Maybe they become Nietzsche or a Zapffe rather than a Jesus or a Buddha from their experiences? Society labels them as nihilist or a recluse...
BUT TO OTHER, ALBEIT FEW, PEOPLE THEY ARE WISE.
I consider Zapffe, Camus, Bergman, and Ligotti wise, for they dealt with very difficult existential questions. However, I do not consider Jesus wise; he was simply delusional. We all perceive different people as being wise, so it is not an "absolute" title. Even if 90% of the world agreed x was unwise, this does not affect the other 10%. In other words, it cannot be proven a priori.
This notion of wise differs among every individual.
***Due to your ineptitude, I have bolded the main part of my argument. I have else deleted the first half because I realized you would spend more time on them, rather than my main thesis. You're an idiot and I truly hate you very, very much.*** |
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LiveAndLetLive
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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lol, you're still an idiot.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I like to end my main thesis with one last input. This one is more of an ad hominem towards Stool:
1. Does a wise man insult the unwise with derogatory terms?
2. Does a wise man join a forum devoted to a troll?
3. Does a wise man condemn others rather than understand them?
4. Is condemnation a given right to the wise?
5. Does the wise man call himself wise amongst others?
6. Does a wise man vouch of the wisdom of others?
7. Does a wise man lack empathy?
8. Does a wise man lack self-knowledge, Stool?
One thing I know for sure, Stool, is you have no place to call others unwise OR wise, for you, yourself, are full of anger.
I, however, KNOW what I am. I understand myself unlike you.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| My Supreme Lord And God wrote: | | lol, you're still an idiot. |
Good job on ignoring everything I said. Reveals your personality more than mine. Admit your argument was fallacious and mines has more standing. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| [attack] Yahweh wrote: | You say we need to accumulate enough experience and learn from them inorder to become wise, but this is obviously ludicrous. Maybe they learn completely different things from the wise? Maybe they become Nietzsche or a Zapffe rather than a Jesus or a Buddha from their experiences? Society labels them as nihilist or a recluse...
BUT TO OTHER, ALBEIT FEW, PEOPLE THEY ARE WISE.
I consider Zapffe, Camus, Bergman, and Ligotti wise, for they dealt with very difficult existential questions. However, I do not consider Jesus wise; he was simply delusional. We all perceive different people as being wise, so it is not an "absolute" title. Even if 90% of the world agreed x was unwise, this does not affect the other 10%. In other words, it cannot be proven a priori.
This notion of wise differs among every individual. |
| My Supreme Lord And God wrote: | | lol, you're still an idiot. |
I have quoted Stool's response to my main argument as proof of his stupidity. He is evading my main argument by relying on red herrings and my "lack of any real popularity" here. I am done.
I would spend some time reflecting, Stool. Experience is nothing without reflection. |
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Sygma
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Every person here is guilty of at least one of those statements on that list.
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